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For some reason I cant get internet. I went through the moves in the setup area, but no luck. Evey other distro I have used was hooked up as soon as it booted. I have dsl, so it should be able to see it. Can't figure this one out. I must have tried just about every distro there is by now, and I have always been able to get the network up and running quickly, but I can't make it happen here. I have a Compaq EVO 510 ssf with 1.6 ghz processor, and 512 mb of ram, and it picks up my ehternet card just fine, just doesnt connect through it. puzzeling.

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(04-05-2010 06:30 PM)rong Wrote:  For some reason I cant get internet. I went through the moves in the setup area, but no luck. Evey other distro I have used was hooked up as soon as it booted. I have dsl, so it should be able to see it. Can't figure this one out. I must have tried just about every distro there is by now, and I have always been able to get the network up and running quickly, but I can't make it happen here. I have a Compaq EVO 510 ssf with 1.6 ghz processor, and 512 mb of ram, and it picks up my ehternet card just fine, just doesnt connect through it. puzzeling.

I still don't know what is wrong, but I tried again, and it shows me to be connected, and even shows the IP address o the screen at the top right where all the information is showing, but the browser wont connect to google, and no updates on the software installer, so I am totally confused. On reboot, I did see where it said "failed" to connect to HAL. Is that the problem? I like to looks of it, just cant use it.

[gettinther]

No, hal should not be affecting you (in fact the hal fail message is due to hal starting twice (and the second launch failing since it's already running)). If hal wasn't running you would not have keyboard or mouse support.

Can you check in the control center > hardware to see what kernel module you card uses?

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(04-06-2010 09:15 AM)gettinther Wrote:  No, hal should not be affecting you (in fact the hal fail message is due to hal starting twice (and the second launch failing since it's already running)). If hal wasn't running you would not have keyboard or mouse support.

Can you check in the control center > hardware to see what kernel module you card uses?

I attempted to do as you asked, but I get as far as "loading please wait", then the screen reverts back to where I was when I clicked on "hardware" in the control center. This is my hardware address from the system I m on now - 00:08:02:1D:17:30
And the driver is listed as- E100 whatever that means. I cant find any location on this system that tells the kernel module information. Sorry I can't be of more help.
This is the IP address shown at the top right of the screen where all the information is shown- 192.168.1.64.
This is the same IP address shown on the system I am using now as well.

[gettinther]

can you open a terminal and su to root. Then type:

lspci -v

Please post the result.

It's odd that the control panel bails out on hardware detection. What happens when you try to check your graphic details in the control center? Does it bail out too?

[gettinther]

ok, I figured out the problem.

KD, you rebuilt the drakxtools on the BS? This package is VERY specific and cannot currently be built on the BS. It picks up the host architecture so as the BS is 64bit, the 32bit package believes itself to be a 64bit package.

This affects /usr/share/harddrake/service_harddrake which is used for hardware detection. This explains why one other user got an issue with his display size as what happens is basically service_harddrake segfaults during the video setup (so the rest of the detection does not take place).

Can you rebuild the 32bit version of drakxtools on a 32bit system and upload it to the server?

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(04-06-2010 04:32 PM)gettinther Wrote:  can you open a terminal and su to root. Then type:

lspci -v

Please post the result.

It's odd that the control panel bails out on hardware detection. What happens when you try to check your graphic details in the control center? Does it bail out too?

Here is the results of what you asked me to do:

ron@ron-desktop:~$ sudo lspci -v
[sudo] password for ron:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [e4] Vendor Specific Information <?>
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
Memory behind bridge: fd000000-fe1fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f5e00000-f7ffffff
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 12)
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64
I/O behind bridge: 00001000-00001fff
Memory behind bridge: fc200000-fc4fffff
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt, intel-rng

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 12) (prog-if 80 [Master])
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device 2411
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
[virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
[virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1]
[virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
[virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1]
I/O ports at 2480 [size=16]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 12)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device 2411
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 2440 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 12)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device 2411
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
I/O ports at 2460 [size=32]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 12)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device 0088
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
I/O ports at 2000 [size=256]
I/O ports at 2400 [size=64]
Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0072
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at f5e00000 [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
Kernel modules: nvidiafb, rivafb

02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation Device 0012
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 20
Memory at fc410000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
I/O ports at 1000 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: e100
Kernel modules: e100

02:09.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
Subsystem: Conexant Systems, Inc. Device 200c
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
Memory at fc400000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
I/O ports at 1040 [size=8]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

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(04-06-2010 05:02 PM)gettinther Wrote:  ok, I figured out the problem.

KD, you rebuilt the drakxtools on the BS? This package is VERY specific and cannot currently be built on the BS. It picks up the host architecture so as the BS is 64bit, the 32bit package believes itself to be a 64bit package.

This affects /usr/share/harddrake/service_harddrake which is used for hardware detection. This explains why one other user got an issue with his display size as what happens is basically service_harddrake segfaults during the video setup (so the rest of the detection does not take place).

Can you rebuild the 32bit version of drakxtools on a 32bit system and upload it to the server?

Did you mean this reply to this thread? If so, you lost me way back at the start. I am simply running the "live cd" when having my problems, and I haven't rebuilt anything to my knowledge. Either this was meant for another thread, or I am totally lost now. lol

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It's odd that the control panel bails out on hardware detection. What happens when you try to check your graphic details in the control center? Does it bail out too?
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I went back and opened the control center, and I can go anywhere, and look at anything with the one exception of the hardware section. That is the only place it bails out back to the first screen.

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I brought the disk home to my Compaq here, and it is an AMD64 processor, and I am posting this via the disk running on it, so it works here, but not at the work pc. I had no problem hooking up to the internet here. This pc is nwer, and has more ram so it works well here, but the one at work is somewhat older with less ram, that is why I was looking at TinyMe to use there for more speed.

[gettinther]

This was a reminder for KDulcimer to update the package as I cannot for a short while. Can you check if ipv6 is enabled (it's an option for your connection in the control center)?

[KDulcimer]

(04-06-2010 05:02 PM)gettinther Wrote:  ok, I figured out the problem.

KD, you rebuilt the drakxtools on the BS? This package is VERY specific and cannot currently be built on the BS. It picks up the host architecture so as the BS is 64bit, the 32bit package believes itself to be a 64bit package.

This affects /usr/share/harddrake/service_harddrake which is used for hardware detection. This explains why one other user got an issue with his display size as what happens is basically service_harddrake segfaults during the video setup (so the rest of the detection does not take place).

Can you rebuild the 32bit version of drakxtools on a 32bit system and upload it to the server?

Yep, that's the error. Issue filed: http://tinymelinux.com/forum/tracker/issue-25.html