TinyMe boots to login screen

[Guignol]

@CAI ENG, I don't agree with your contention that a live cd "must" autologin. I for one like having the choice to "kick the tires" as normal user before logging in as root to install. And in fact, a livecd that autologs in as root is a major strike against me adopting it. A permanent install that autologs as root gets immediately nuked.

As long as the demo/guest account and root passwords or displayed somewhere prominent in the boot process, that's fine. As a note to devs though, especially if older hardware is your target audience,the splash screen isn't a good place to present this info, because sometimes splashy will fail to start ("framebuffer is not properly configured, see tinyurl/339h7" -- fat lot of good that does me regarding a livecd I can't alter). PCLOS's solution, a variant of the login screen wallpaper with that info included, works the best.

[KDulcimer]

The TinyMe solution is fairly similar. The usernames and passwords are displayed in a dialog box before the login screen.

[caieng]

(09-14-2010 07:29 PM)KDulcimer Wrote:  The TinyMe solution is fairly similar. The usernames and passwords are displayed in a dialog box before the login screen.

But, please, am I the only one on this forum who is disturbed by the absence of LOGIC here?

Let us understand the two scenarios:
1. A person wishes to use the live CD in order to examine TinyMe, without installing the OS onto his/her hard drive.

2. The user DOES hope to install TinyMe onto his/her hard drive.

Is there ANY situation, for which the capability to launch directly into the install routine, by a simple, SINGLE click from a desktop icon, would be viewed as so dangerous as to necessitate the process of logging in, by typing "root" for both user name and password?

To me, it is simply absurd to require logging in, as if residing in a multiuser environment, when the VAST majority of "TinyMe" users will be working NOT in that environment, but with a single computer, dedicated to that one user.

UNIX was developed, four decades ago, in an environment where the concept, let alone the hardware, did not exist, for private computers in every room of the house.

In today's terms, that would be comparable to imagining every person having a helicopter parked in their back yard or on the roof top. Back in the late 60's, no one had the slightest idea that every person would have his or her own computer with multiple gigabytes of memory, for the price of an evening out, or a family trip to a football game.

It was unimaginable, back then, that we would NOT require login id's and passwords.

Of course we needed them. How else to protect our documents' security on the tape drives, which in those days, were the size of a refrigerator, and required refrigeration to function. Linux is not a museum, folks. It is a living organism, adaptive, and capable of CHANGE.

There is no rationale, for logging in, to examine a live CD of TinyMe. There is no rationale, to require passwords and login id's in order to install the software.

It is simply ludicrous.

CAI ENG

[KDulcimer]

(09-16-2010 01:58 PM)caieng Wrote:  But, please, am I the only one on this forum who is disturbed by the absence of LOGIC here?

You know what? I have been very bothered by an absence of logic here, and I'm going to set it straight:

YOU JUST EARNED YOURSELF A 2 WEEK BAN.

You see, I've been troubled as to why I should keep you around. You are insulting, YOU SHOUT TOO MUCH, you question me in the most rude of ways, and you freely insult, ridicule, and otherwise belittle my intelligence. All this leaves me with a question on my mind: "Why do I keep Caieng around?"

Then it occurred to me that this isn't my problem; it's yours. I've spent enough time trying to decide whether I should keep you around or not. I have finally decided to just say "Heck with it! " So as to why I should keep you around, I'm giving you 2 weeks to think about it.